clinton tax rates. so if republicans in the house succeed in preventing anything from happening this time, something will actually happen, and everyone's tax rates will go up. joining me, justin reuben and ezra klein. ezra, i want to start with you on something. justin was in the room with the president today, i am going to torture him in a second to get what the president said. we have what's being treated as breaking news tonight by some of the newspapers that the president's tax revenue target in going forward is 1.6 trillion. it is something he said before when he said his opening position negotiating this is his past budget position. but what is the emphasis now on the 1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue due to where the tax discussions are going to go. >> they are looking for 1.6 trillion. but people are missing what's important about the white house position. what the white house is saying and this matters for these negotiations, john boehner's position is he is open to revenue, but not if it